All 650's May have found the spool solution

[Devilsfan]

I came across these from Graves (via Revzilla). Not sure if you'd want to drill holes into your swing arm but...

Revzilla link (cheaper!): https://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/graves-motorsports-universal-swingarm-spool-adapters

Here's the pdf for installation:

https://www.revzilla.com/assets/000..._motorcycle_swingarm_spool_adapter_mounts.pdf


And the Graves Motorsports link:

https://www.gravesport.com/products...motorcycle-swingarm-spool-adapter-mounts.html

 

[Devilsfan]

Also found these from T-rex. No drilling!!!

They list these for the CBR650F but they look like they'd fit my 2018 CB650F as well. I will call them tomorrow to see if they will. $100 but...

https://www.t-rex-racing.com/2014-2017-Honda-CBR650F-Spool-Adapters-p/n43-14sa.htm

 

[Brammers]

Be aware the bottom of the swing arm isn't level. Using drill in kind might leave the bike on a lean when on the stand.

J

 

[stevelululu]

Why not use a paddock stand that supports both bottom sides of the swingarm, instead of a spool type?

https://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/oxford-big-black-bike-rear-stand

 

[Devilsfan]

Why not use a paddock stand that supports both bottom sides of the swingarm, instead of a spool type?

https://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/oxford-big-black-bike-rear-stand

I do! But having another option would be nice. I currently use a Harbor Freight paddock stand. It works but the pads on the stand vs the swing arm hardly fit. The pads are an upside down "U-type" shape and the swing arm barely fits within. It works, don't get me wrong (I've used it a few times already) but I also have a spool paddock stand that's a little more durable.

Right now I have 2 Harbor Freight rear stands, one Pit Bull fork stand with the fork lift attachment, and one hydraulic motorcycle lift. I'm tired of buying stands for bikes so if I want a more durable pad stand I'm going to have to get another Pit Pull or Abba..$$$.

 

[Brammers]

With an Abba, you should only need to change the adapters.

 

[miweber929]

Also found these from T-rex. No drilling!!!

They list these for the CBR650F but they look like they'd fit my 2018 CB650F as well. I will call them tomorrow to see if they will. $100 but...
https://www.t-rex-racing.com/2014-2017-Honda-CBR650F-Spool-Adapters-p/n43-14sa.htm

Several have bought these in the past, they work but are a bit clunky to look at, fiddly to install and they trap dirt and grime under which can scratch your swingarm. Personally, I didn’t think the bike was supported very well and it’s easy to install them wrong and have it hit your sprocket nuts.

It works, and is a solution. I sent mine off to someone for the price of postage, I didn’t see that they were worth it leaving them on.

Right now I have 2 Harbor Freight rear stands, one Pit Bull fork stand with the fork lift attachment, and one hydraulic motorcycle lift. I'm tired of buying stands for bikes so if I want a more durable pad stand I'm going to have to get another Pit Pull or Abba..$$$.

You have a Pit Bull front so you already know how good they are.

Bite the bullet, buy a Pit Bull rear with the reversible spool/pad adaptor and never buy another stand again (unless you buy a SSSA bike or two, then get one for each. Note: I have two SSSA bikes). The PB I bought in the 90s still works great, I’ve used it on literally dozens of bikes and it’s by far the most stable stand out there, enough so I’ve loaded up the bike on the stands and had myself and my wife sit on it in the garage with full luggage to check how everything works and it’s been completely stable. Pit Bull will also sell you new pads, pins, whatever as your stand wears them out.

I’ve got a couple HF units, a front and a rear I used a couple times in an emergency and they are just too flimsy to count on so they sit. The shape of the 650 swingarm needs a deep pad to grab well, and the HF one just doesn’t work well.

 

[Ian03]

Anyone tried drilling and tapping an M6 thread in the ends of the rear axle and mounting the paddock stand bobbins on the ends?
Seems a cheap solution, but does anyone see any issues in doing this?

 

[volkein]

I use these made by GSG :

https://www.gsg-mototechnik.de/00honda/honda_cb650f_rc74_2014/honda_cbr_650f_rc74_2014.htm

You can't adjust the slack though.

 

[quigonquinn]

I have a stand that has both the spool and pads. the bottom of the swing arm on the 650r is angled in, leaving it very difficult to get onto the pads, and very insecure feeling and the contact patch between the bottom of the swingarm and pads is small, and on the very tip of the pads. Really want good spool options, to also be able to adjust the slack. might look into the options from earlier in the post

 

[Motojack]

why not just get these? https://www.rg-racing.com/browsebike/Honda/CBR650R/2019/CR0047BK/

 

[miweber929]

why not just get these? https://www.rg-racing.com/browsebike/Honda/CBR650R/2019/CR0047BK/

Those work great for cleaning and storage but have a major design drawback: they are directly attached to the axle blocks which “float” and require a tight rear axle to stay in place.

So you can’t remove the rear wheel using them and even adjusting the chain is difficult because you’re supporting the bike by the very thing you’re precision adjusting. It can be done, but it’s a balancing act between axle movement and bike support. If you get it wrong, oops, there goes the bike.

 

[Ezzat_1983]

You adjust your chain on the side stand not in the air...if you are, you're doing it wrong...

Those work great for cleaning and storage but have a major design drawback: they are directly attached to the axle blocks which “float” and require a tight rear axle to stay in place.

So you can’t remove the rear wheel using them and even adjusting the chain is difficult because you’re supporting the bike by the very thing you’re precision adjusting. It can be done, but it’s a balancing act between axle movement and bike support. If you get it wrong, oops, there goes the bike.

 

[miweber929]

You adjust your chain on the side stand not in the air...if you are, you're doing it wrong...

As long as you know what the adjustment is on the ground there is no reason you can't do it on a stand. Makes it very easy to find the tight spot in the chain if you can spin the wheel.

 

[Ezzat_1983]

As long as you know what the adjustment is on the ground there is no reason you can't do it on a stand. Makes it very easy to find the tight spot in the chain if you can spin the wheel.

It's off then though because in the air you have no weight on it to check the slack. So by the time you let it down, it's tighter than it should be. Hence why you adjust it on the stand per Honda's instruction.

 

[miweber929]

It's off then though because in the air you have no weight on it to check the slack. So by the time you let it down, it's tighter than it should be. Hence why you adjust it on the stand per Honda's instruction.

No. If you set it on the ground per the manual, then lift it up, make note of how it affects the tension, then set it to that “new” setting next time while you have it on the stand, it will be correct when you lower it to the ground.

It’s actually very close to the setting on the side stand because you’re still carrying weight on the rear tire, it’s just not spread between the two tires and side stand.

 

[Tony650r]

I use these made by GSG :

https://www.gsg-mototechnik.de/00honda/honda_cb650f_rc74_2014/honda_cbr_650f_rc74_2014.htm

You can't adjust the slack though.

I was looking at these. Does the nut holding it in place need to be loosened to remove the rear wheel, or for any other purpose than adjusting the chain? Never done it before. If not, chain adjusting is done on the kick stand, so would be perfect for the spool issue.

 

[Motojack]

I Use the L-Pads on the rear stand and the R&G spools for drop protection.

I would not worrry about using L pads on our swing arms, it fine lads, I no issues with chain maintenance over the last year. I think it might actually be easier than using he spools to be honest.

 

[volkein]

I don't think you need to loosen the nut to remove the rear wheel and I do the chain adjustment on the kickstand.

 

[Brammers]

Chain adjustment should be done on the side stand anyway. NOT with the rear wheel off the ground.

J