Trading up - CBR600RR?

Atucker

2019
CBR650R
Aug 18, 2020
Riding Since
2001
Hi All,

Just want to get everyone's thoughts on trading in the 2019 CBR650R for a 2021 CBR600RR. I love the look of the 650, but admittedly have been a bit disappointed by the power delivery. Local dealer has offered $7000 on trade in so my out the door on the 600 would be just over $5,000. I'm mainly using it for commuting and comfort isn't a big deal. I was actually more comfortable on the R6 than I am on the 650R. Insurance difference is only $6.00 additional per month over the 650R so that isn't a major concern either. I was actually more concerned on how expensive the 650 was comparatively since its a sports bike and not a super sport. I think I'm leaning on the trade since there's no telling how much longer the 600 super sports will be around, but would love to get other opinions or even thoughts on different models.
 

baugustine

2014
CBR650F
Staff
May 21, 2016
Ventura, CA
I’ll provide an abridged answer, because we have delved into this topic a few times already in other posts. There are several of us who either own both (or have owned both). miweber929 @miweber929 and me discuss this topic till our ears bleed...

Very different bikes, although the 650R is closer to the 600RR than a 650F was. The 600RR is about as much fun as you can have with your clothes on, but not a good commuter or touring bike, unless you are doing short commutes. A total track weapon if that is your thing as well. Kinda like a 6cyl Camaro vs a ZL1.

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miweber929

2014
CBR650F
650 Alumnus
Staff
Feb 13, 2015
Woodbury, MN
Hi All,

Just want to get everyone's thoughts on trading in the 2019 CBR650R for a 2021 CBR600RR. I love the look of the 650, but admittedly have been a bit disappointed by the power delivery. Local dealer has offered $7000 on trade in so my out the door on the 600 would be just over $5,000. I'm mainly using it for commuting and comfort isn't a big deal. I was actually more comfortable on the R6 than I am on the 650R. Insurance difference is only $6.00 additional per month over the 650R so that isn't a major concern either. I was actually more concerned on how expensive the 650 was comparatively since its a sports bike and not a super sport. I think I'm leaning on the trade since there's no telling how much longer the 600 super sports will be around, but would love to get other opinions or even thoughts on different models.
Here is what I will say to this:

Life is short, buy the bike.

Now I will add a few more things: the 600RR is a GREAT bike, some may say one of the most perfect street/track bikes every produced. There are 5 generations: 03/04, 05/06, 07/08, 09/12, 13+. The major step up was the '07 model and save for bodywork, slight suspension tweaks and some ECU tunings, the '21 is the same bike as the '07. Seriously, it is. I can get more into the differences, what works and what doesn't, things that changed, etc. trust me when I tell you there is very little difference between an 2007 and the '21 model. Search around at trusted sources and you will see what I am talking about. The R6 is the same thing, really the '21 is the same bike as the '07 save for tweaks and a few tuning updates.

So while I'd say $7K isn't a bad trade in, and $5k isn't an awful amount to pay on top, I would say for that $5k you could buy yourself a very nice 2009-2012 (they are my favorite ones, I can go into why if you want know) and have BOTH bikes a la baugustine @baugustine then be able to have the best of both worlds. Now if you only have room for 1 bike and fancy a new one, I think that $12k can get you a lot "more" bike than a bike designed in 2006 with a lot more wiz-bang stuff on it, the Aprilia 660 for one. The 600RR is not a bad bike by any means and if you like simple and reliable, there is none better, I personally don't think it's a $12k bike.

But if you want it, see my above advice :)
 

Atucker

2019
CBR650R
Aug 18, 2020
Riding Since
2001
miweber929 @miweber929 - Thank for the feedback! I've been looking for and ultimately gave up my search for a 2009 - 2012. My first preference was a 2013 but everything I've found locally has been priced insanely high. The few that come up for sale in Cincinnati have been priced $2-3k above what I consider fair asking price and the range you noted. Covid has caused the values of the bikes in the used market around me to rise exponentially which is a double edged sword; can't find one cheap used, but certainly helps on trade value. I completely agree that it's a tough pill to swallow at $12k, but considering I paid $10k for the 650R I'm thinking that incrementally that 2k has a lot value! Honestly both were overpriced so really no rational way to justify it other than these toys got expensive quick over the last decade!
 

Atucker

2019
CBR650R
Aug 18, 2020
Riding Since
2001
Would a CBR600F4i not be a good alternative?

I would love to have one, but again can't really find one that is in good condition at this point. Everything I've seen recently has been beaten, gajillions of miles and no service history, zip tied fairings, etc. Its a shame because those were unbelievable bikes.
 

miweber929

2014
CBR650F
650 Alumnus
Staff
Feb 13, 2015
Woodbury, MN
Would a CBR600F4i not be a good alternative?

I would love to have one, but again can't really find one that is in good condition at this point. Everything I've seen recently has been beaten, gajillions of miles and no service history, zip tied fairings, etc. Its a shame because those were unbelievable bikes.
They are pretty nice, my dad had a pristine ‘05 until a trip down south a 2 years ago saw him end up in a ditch and tip it over in the gravel at 0mph and it’s now a little bit scratched up. I love the F4i but to me it’s pretty much the exact same bike as the 650 and I think the 650 even feels more “modern” than the F4 platform does.

The RR is sweet and the engine and chassis performance is a whole new level.
 

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miweber929

2014
CBR650F
650 Alumnus
Staff
Feb 13, 2015
Woodbury, MN
I did a bit of looking around over the past couple days and yeah, motorcycle values, especially the 600RR, are all fudged up (again) and used is becoming so overpriced it’s almost better to go new.

I did notice, however, that the 1000RR values are still pretty low and a nice 2012-2016 RR can be had fairly reasonably. I’m not sure if you’re thinking about a liter bike but they might be an option if you’re ok with used.
 

baugustine

2014
CBR650F
Staff
May 21, 2016
Ventura, CA
I did a bit of looking around over the past couple days and yeah, motorcycle values, especially the 600RR, are all fudged up (again) and used is becoming so overpriced it’s almost better to go new.
Pretty much the entire transportation industry right now. Most manufacturing shut down last summer and now supply-chain shortages. Used anything is hot, overpriced and short supply. Neighbor told me yesterday the local dealer offered to buy his bike just so they had something to sell on the lot.
 

Kevin

2020
CBR650R ABS
Sep 21, 2020
Ontario, Canada
Riding Since
2004
Pretty much the entire transportation industry right now. Most manufacturing shut down last summer and now supply-chain shortages. Used anything is hot, overpriced and short supply. Neighbor told me yesterday the local dealer offered to buy his bike just so they had something to sell on the lot.
The dealer I bought my truck from back in 2018 called me a couple of weeks ago and offered me 500 more than I paid for the truck new as a trade in for the same reason, no inventory on trucks.
 
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