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CB650R No front end feel, anyone?

miweber929

2014
CBR650F
650 Alumnus
Staff
Feb 13, 2015
Woodbury, MN
Riding Since
1975
I think we should have the option to choose the tyres when we buy our bikes. That would please everyone.
You don’t when you buy a car so why would motorcycles be any different?

OEM tires are different than non-OEM and are built to a (very) low price point. The OEM Rosso III on the Ducati Supersport only lasts between 2500 and 4500 miles and fall off handling wise very quickly but the non-oem ones last 2k more and keep feel their entire life.
 

EuroBadger

2021
CB650R ABS
Feb 18, 2021
Riding Since
2019
Gotta add that the 650R feels and rides like a nose-heavy F/R car which understeer a lot until you actively shift weight and steer the vehicle with throttle. Very rear wheel oriented.
One of the upsides is that it makes trail braking and throttle steering extra satisfying.
 

John Jive

CBR650R
May 10, 2023
Riding Since
2007
Nothing wrong with the Dunlop tyres

Of course, I'm not a Motogp rider like some... 😁
 

Redrocket

CBR650R
Mar 17, 2023
Riding Since
1968
Well, the cheap-spec ons I had on my new NC750X a few years back were terrible - we called them Dunaplops on the NC forum. The ones on my CBR are not very confidence-inspiring either, though not so bad. I certainly won't be buying Dunlops to replace them - my NC was utterly transformed using Michelin Road 5s - different bike altogether. I'll put 6's on the CBR.
 

EuroBadger

2021
CB650R ABS
Feb 18, 2021
Riding Since
2019
Well, the cheap-spec ons I had on my new NC750X a few years back were terrible - we called them Dunaplops on the NC forum. The ones on my CBR are not very confidence-inspiring either, though not so bad. I certainly won't be buying Dunlops to replace them - my NC was utterly transformed using Michelin Road 5s - different bike altogether. I'll put 6's on the CBR.
Nothing wrong with Dunlop. Dunlop has great tyres in their product line up. It's just that Honda did not care to put an expensive set of high quality tyres in the NC or CBR because neither of them are premium bikes.
 

MacRoadster

CB650R ABS
Sep 5, 2024
Riding Since
1993
You don’t when you buy a car so why would motorcycles be any different?
Why not for cars too? We have so many options/extras to choose from, most of them useless, why not something that matters and has a direct impact on driving/riding?

Sure, many people doesn't know the difference between a good and bad tyre, but everyone knows which colour looks cool... 😆
 

miweber929

2014
CBR650F
650 Alumnus
Staff
Feb 13, 2015
Woodbury, MN
Riding Since
1975
Why not for cars too? We have so many options/extras to choose from, most of them useless, why not something that matters and has a direct impact on driving/riding?

Sure, many people doesn't know the difference between a good and bad tyre, but everyone knows which colour looks cool... 😆
Nobody knows the difference and there would be less than 2% that would pay more for better tire. All people want is the lowest price.
 

MacRoadster

CB650R ABS
Sep 5, 2024
Riding Since
1993
Nobody knows the difference and there would be less than 2% that would pay more for better tire. All people want is the lowest price.
Not sure if would be just 2%, but I agree with you that most people would go for the lowest price.

I only go for the lowest price when comparing same quality level tyres. It makes such a big difference on safety and performance, for the lowest tier tyres, that the price difference becomes small 🙄
 
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