From the article:I wonder if they bothered to make it Euro5 complaint for the EU market.
Bennetts just confirmed that Honda have stated not for Europe/UK ... won't be Euro5 emissions compatible.
Looks like a facelift and respin of the last 600RR engine, cleaned up a bit for the Japanese market regs.
I wonder if its a tweaked 650 plant (smaller pots?) in a higher grade frame.
for about 15 more hp (none of which you'd be able use on the street) over the 650R, the only reason to get the RR would be for the gadgets. Especially with the RR not being Euro5 compliant. I wonder if the 650s will fall into the flagship mid-weight category. The article does say this is likely the last generation for the 600RR
oh, absolutely all valid points. I'm thinking more within the next decade. Since this article mentioned the 600RR being the last generation, just speculating what direction their middleweight supersport might be going. Maybe they'll make a 650RR?documented elsewhere here (and the previous Forum) by @miweber929 , the 600RR is a completely different beast altogether. Its not just the HP increase, (which is closer to 30 I think) the frame and suspension are way different. The 19-20 R models made some improvements in the front suspension from the 14-18 F's, but the entire package on the 600 is on a much higher level. (My analogy is like an RS Camaro vs a ZL1)
I own both and ride both almost daily, and without major changes I don't think you could ever make the 650 series handle, accelerate or brake the way the 600 does. Just my opinion...
Yeah, the displacement was based out of the AMA/World Supersport racing classes, when the 600cc class went away it’s just been limited there based on the past. Also @baugustine is correct, it’s closer 25 or 30 hp difference between a stock 650 and 600; a “healthy” stock 650 will show between 75-80hp on a correct dyno at the rear wheel and the 600RR will be right about 100hp give or take a few. Both can get around 5-10hp from a pipe, filter, PCV and other slight tweaks but that’s it without major work.
If you haven’t ridden an RR do it, they are amazing bikes, all generations are equally great bikes. Just ride one that’s in good shape as they tend to get beat and are usually maintained poorly.