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Both Derestricting LAMS version ECU (Australia)

Should their be an OEM derestricting option available?


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CBR650F

2017
CBR ABS
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#21
I was told by my dealer not to bother.
Apparently they've done something that requires the ignition system to be changed as well as the ECU.
 

Duncan

CBR
Mod
Odominator
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SEQ Australia
#23
once again a dealer does not want to know. last time they quoted $3000 for the job.
how to do it is in the workshop manual, it's a bit scary for the 1st timer but do able.
and as Brammers points out, the ECM, and key are coded to the collar around the ignition barrel.

but, you can find ECM, ignition, all 3 locks and 2 keys on ebay to swap out for less than $1000.

It's bullshit that no one wants to touch it for less than $1500. it's also shit that honda it's importing the full power and soem honda dealers in QLD are fillign after market pipes which accordign tot he law stops the bike being LAMS, while still only having 30kW. FFS.
and thats a free pipe worth almost as much as a "fix" to make it full power.
 

Allan

2016
CB ABS
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6
Location
Melbourne
#24
Hi guys, I have a 2016 CB650F LAMS and I am in the process of removing the restrictions. I also work at a motorcycle store and the cheapest way to remove the restrictions is $500.00 + the new intakes and there is no need to get new keys hiss or anything like that. There is a place in Perth which will wipe and tune your ecu (ecuwest) and they will also reset it back to factory if you want to ever sell it as a LAMS bike. I haven't got around to doing it yet as I am waiting to get my akra pipe for it before I send the ecu away.
 

Allan

2016
CB ABS
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Location
Melbourne
#26
They have borrowed a bike from somebody and from what that said in the description I don't beleive it was a easy task for them to do but they managed it. ("We’ve been lucky enough to have one for a few months to crack the ECU and its information to make quite a decent sporty 650")
 

miweber929

2014
CBR
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Woodbury, MN
#32
Interesting. If they found a way to modify the ECU mappings, then tuning without the use of piggyback systems (like PC5) would be possible for non LAMS bikes as well.
The only drawback to that is you’re looking at a setting they burn into an ECU that works for the bike they tested not your specific motorcycle which can vary quite a bit from unit to unit. So you’re probably looking at 80-90% of its true capability at best with a generic ECU flash. That’s why DynoJet strongly suggests you not share maps between bikes; what may have worked on my particular bike won’t work on your particular bike, etc. and you be running a dangerously lean or overly rich setting.

A PCV with a dyno tuning from a reputable shop is still your best bet at a “perfectly” tuned fuel system.

The above link doesn’t make sense to me because I thought LAMS were restricted to the 50hp range, similar to the A2 models. The dyno graph shows 65hp for a baseline.
 

Jerriri

2017
CBR ABS
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#34
I've had my cbr650 2017 model derestricted and tuned. ECU needs to be unlocked, get a powercommander, engine mapping need to be changed. Need a full exhaust system to get the most power out of it and also need a new air filter. Im running two brothers full system, a BMC air filter and dynojet quickshifter. Attached before and after tune dyno graphs to give you guys an idea. Ive since had it fine tuned and its making 90hp. Total cost for me was $1500 for the ECU unlock, tune, powercommander and air filter. Exhaust was 1.5k. So all up $3k to get to 90hp.
 

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ADIOS600

2015
CB ABS
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407
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LINCOLNSHIRE
#36
I've had my cbr650 2017 model derestricted and tuned. ECU needs to be unlocked, get a powercommander, engine mapping need to be changed. Need a full exhaust system to get the most power out of it and also need a new air filter. Im running two brothers full system, a BMC air filter and dynojet quickshifter. Attached before and after tune dyno graphs to give you guys an idea. Ive since had it fine tuned and its making 90hp. Total cost for me was $1500 for the ECU unlock, tune, powercommander and air filter. Exhaust was 1.5k. So all up $3k to get to 90hp.
WOW :cool:
 

cferg

2017
CB ABS
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16
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13
Location
Aus
#37
I've had my cbr650 2017 model derestricted and tuned. ECU needs to be unlocked, get a powercommander, engine mapping need to be changed. Need a full exhaust system to get the most power out of it and also need a new air filter. Im running two brothers full system, a BMC air filter and dynojet quickshifter. Attached before and after tune dyno graphs to give you guys an idea. Ive since had it fine tuned and its making 90hp. Total cost for me was $1500 for the ECU unlock, tune, powercommander and air filter. Exhaust was 1.5k. So all up $3k to get to 90hp.
That’s epic :O
If I could ask a few question :p would love to do this to my CB
Where abouts in Australia was that done?
Also did they provide the PC ect?
Cheers man
 

Hemi001

2016
CB ABS
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3
#38
I will be doing my cb this week in melbourne i will post results. I have been quoted 1k for dyno tune and all parts needed to unrestrict.
 

Hemi001

2016
CB ABS
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#39
Just picked her up from shop was deristricted today and wow the difference is amazing absolutly love it best $1000 ever spent.