All 650's Magnetic Sump Plug Debris

Daniel · Oct 13, 2018

Hello all, did an oil change last week and was intrigued to see if the sump plug had gripped anything after a year and 4,000 miles. The magnet is quite narrow but still a fair bit of junk on it.

Anyone else use one? Have opinions on their benefit or pictures after use?

Didn't enjoy trying to get the old filter off with a rubber strap wratchet, it was too tight I suspect overtightened by the dealer. Straight on with the K&N one not for the badge but because of the simple 17mm socket on it! Much easier and just as cheap.

Slickvic · May 6, 2019

Adding a link for this since it was not in the original post: Mishimoto - Magnetic Oil Drain Plug M12 x 1.5, Black ("Murica" URL)

Daniel · Aug 14, 2020

2 years since my last oil change since I haven't done that many miles in that time (shame on me)

A super exciting update to the amount of debris I found this time around.

CBJojo650RRR · Apr 10, 2021

Holy shit where are all this shrapnel coming from?

Brammers · Apr 10, 2021

General wear and tear of an engine.

The sump plug will be picking up debris that the filter is designed to catch, so it looks worse than it is.

Upside is the filter will be having an easy time of it

If any of those shards are big, check things like cam chain tensioner is working OK.

Oil should be changed annually along with the filter, regardless of mileage covered.

J

baugustine · Apr 10, 2021

Also bear in mind this is a wet clutch system. All the reason service intervals are important.

PAPERINIK58666 · Apr 12, 2021

Daniel said:
Ciao a tutti, ho fatto un cambio d'olio la scorsa settimana e sono rimasto incuriosito nel vedere se il tappo della coppa aveva afferrato qualcosa dopo un anno e 4.000 miglia. Il magnete è piuttosto stretto ma ancora un bel po 'di spazzatura su di esso.

Qualcun altro ne usa uno? Hai opinioni sui loro benefici o immagini dopo l'uso?

Non mi è piaciuto provare a togliere il vecchio filtro con un cinturino in gomma, sospetto che fosse troppo stretto dal rivenditore. Avanti dritto con quello K&N non per il badge ma per la semplice presa da 17mm su di esso! Molto più facile ed altrettanto economico. [ATTACH = full] 2346 [/ ATTACH] [ATTACH = full] 2347 [/ ATTACH] [ATTACH = full] 2348 [/ ATTACH]

Don't worry, it is the slag of the metal parts that form at the edges during the molding phase, especially when the bike is new. The magnet serves to capture them and not send them around further. In time you will find fewer, at least hopefully ...

CBJojo650RRR · Apr 13, 2021

I hope the ferrous debris don't come from the clutch. As far as I know clutch is made of resin, definitely not ferrous.
Makes you wonder why the manual says to change the oil filter every 2nd oil change.

PAPERINIK58666 · Apr 13, 2021

CBJojo650RRR said:
I hope the ferrous debris don't come from the clutch. As far as I know clutch is made of resin, definitely not ferrous.
Makes you wonder why the manual says to change the oil filter every 2nd oil change.

They are metal filings, the clutch has consumables but not ferrous. Never found metal residues in the oil filter, they probably stop first in the magnetic plug. However, personally I replace the filter together with the oil, for what it costs ...

CBJojo650RRR · Apr 13, 2021

You must not be buying OEM oil filters. They're $30 USD each.

PAPERINIK58666 · Apr 13, 2021

Of course, I've been using these filters for years on every bike. HIFLO, around 10.00 euros.

Brammers · Apr 13, 2021

Oem filters are £10 here. 650f should change filter at every oil change, 650r every other one.

J

miweber929 · Apr 13, 2021

CBJojo650RRR said:
You must not be buying OEM oil filters. They're $30 USD each.

Not sure where you are buying them from but not even my highly overpriced OEM Ducati and Triumph filters are over $20 each. The last Honda filters I bought were around $12 at any dealer I went to.

CBJojo650RRR · Apr 15, 2021

It does says made in the USA on it. Maybe that's why it's cheaper for you? We don't have a Honda Motorcycle dealer here perse, only partnered dealer.