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Removed the orange reflectors

Goblin

2019
CB650R ABS
Sep 2, 2019
I love a clean look (less is more) so I removed the ugly orange reflectors on the front of my bike. Because the brackets are also spacers of the front fender, I adjusted the brackets with a dremel and repainted them. the ABS sencor cable is also attached to the left bracket, so you have to pay attention to that. The result is a clean look (please note that it is legal in your country) 😇
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Eaglemoto

2019
CBR650R ABS
Jul 13, 2019
Riding Since
2013
Whether its legal or not you make the front end of your bike less visible from the side, at night, by removing them. I guess if you don't ride at night then its ok.
 

Goblin

2019
CB650R ABS
Sep 2, 2019
Yeah therefore you need to know if it’s legal or not. I’m not that worried about visibility at night, they don’t see me during the day so why bother at nicht. It’s always me who needs to drive defensive
 

Jerry

2016
CBR650F ABS
May 18, 2017
The Netherlands
Whether its legal or not you make the front end of your bike less visible from the side, at night, by removing them. I guess if you don't ride at night then its ok.
The 650F's came without side reflectors out of the factory (at least, the ones here in the Netherlands don't have them). So he's not less safe than I would be.
 

Goblin

2019
CB650R ABS
Sep 2, 2019
Being save on a bike is mostly the responsibility of the driver himself. I think two tiny reflectors will not make a big difference. Let’s be honest, we see it all the time motorists who do not see even the largest fellow road users because they are busy with completely different things than paying attention to traffic. So I as a motorcyclist need to be the one that is always alert and have my road strategy there if I need to. That’s my two cents about surviving on the road after 27 years in the car and on the bike
 

Eaglemoto

2019
CBR650R ABS
Jul 13, 2019
Riding Since
2013
The 650F's came without side reflectors out of the factory (at least, the ones here in the Netherlands don't have them). So he's not less safe than I would be.

True, but you could say that about many other safety features when comparing new to old bikes. Another example between the bikes you mentioned is the lack of traction control on the 650F.
 

Eaglemoto

2019
CBR650R ABS
Jul 13, 2019
Riding Since
2013
Being save on a bike is mostly the responsibility of the driver himself. I think two tiny reflectors will not make a big difference. Let’s be honest, we see it all the time motorists who do not see even the largest fellow road users because they are busy with completely different things than paying attention to traffic. So I as a motorcyclist need to be the one that is always alert and have my road strategy there if I need to. That’s my two cents about surviving on the road after 27 years in the car and on the bike

This theory is fine if you are the one moving, however I know from experience that you can be minding your own business, waiting to pull out onto a main road at night, only for an idiot to rear-end you because he thought you had gone. Then finding yourself on the floor with your leg pinned under the bike.
Its then you realise all the experience in the world doesn't stop people simply driving their fairly large SUV into your bike and potentially sending you into the path of other moving traffic.
Any little thing that can make you more visible at night could make a difference, and there must be a reason why all new bikes have had these fitted for the past few years.
 

Goblin

2019
CB650R ABS
Sep 2, 2019
You are not safer on a bike with or without traction control, it’s nothing more than a helping hand. it’s the person who drives the bike that makes it safe or unsafe. Sometimes all these safety systems can give the driver a valse feeling of being safer. false sense of security, can let to more risk taking. This is what you sometimes see with younger riders / beginners. I trust my own skills and common sense, an the safety systems like traction control ABS etc are just a nice backup to have, but never depend on it, that’s a mistake some riders make
 

Goblin

2019
CB650R ABS
Sep 2, 2019
If someone rear-end you, than you didn’t pay attention and did not look in your mirrors. Especially at night you need to be alert. That’s what I said, some drivers don’t see the biggest things on the road, you as biker need to be prepared for the mistakes other people make
 

Goblin

2019
CB650R ABS
Sep 2, 2019
I know it sounds harsh, and it can happen to anyone in that split second. An yeah it’s a horrible thing if a driver doesn’t see you and rear-ends you, but it’s also the biker that didn’t pay attention to his surroundings and didn’t see the car slowing down or just maintaining his speed
 

Enrico

2018
CB650F ABS
Mar 28, 2019
know it sounds harsh, and it can happen to anyone in that split second. An yeah it’s a horrible thing if a driver doesn’t see you and rear-ends you, but it’s also the biker that didn’t pay attention to his surroundings and didn’t see the car slowing down or just maintaining his speed
That's rubbish - I was rear ended moving away from a roundabout a few years ago, the driver behind me simply rammed me ,don't know why or where they were looking but not my fault and nothing I could have done about it. It's ridiculous to suggest the biker didn't pay attention to his surroundings in that sort of situation.
 

Maverick

2019
CB650R
Jun 18, 2019
Czech Republic
I am going to do the same.
However, to remain street legal, I bought orange side reflectors coming from Ducati Scrambler with similar 41mm USD fork and will use it similar way like Ducati does. Not perfect, but much better/nicer solution.
 

Goblin

2019
CB650R ABS
Sep 2, 2019
What I said, it’s a horrible accident no biker wants to experience. I wasn’t there to witness the incident, so in your situation i can’t say much. But what I know is that you as biker need to be alert and prepared for other people’s mistakes. But yeah in some cases there is nothing you could have done to prevent a accident from happening. But to get back on topic, I don’t see the relation between two side reflectors preventing a rear-end collision!
 

Eaglemoto

2019
CBR650R ABS
Jul 13, 2019
Riding Since
2013
I know it sounds harsh, and it can happen to anyone in that split second. An yeah it’s a horrible thing if a driver doesn’t see you and rear-ends you, but it’s also the biker that didn’t pay attention to his surroundings and didn’t see the car slowing down or just maintaining his speed

You sir know nothing of the incident, my experience leveI, or how I ride, I would check your facts before posting inconsiderate drivel. In this country if you are hit from behind it is the person who drives into the stationary vehicle who is to blame. I was stationary because I was paying particular attention to what vehicles were coming from the right at a junction, at night, when it was raining with poor visibility.
Both the insurance company and the guy who hit me knew they were at fault and immediately paid out when the bike was written off.

I of course hope you never get to experience what it is like being knocked off a bike, but if you ever do maybe you can come back with more enlightened comments.
 

Eaglemoto

2019
CBR650R ABS
Jul 13, 2019
Riding Since
2013
What I said, it’s a horrible accident no biker wants to experience. I wasn’t there to witness the incident, so in your situation i can’t say much. But what I know is that you as biker need to be alert and prepared for other people’s mistakes. But yeah in some cases there is nothing you could have done to prevent a accident from happening. But to get back on topic, I don’t see the relation between two side reflectors preventing a rear-end collision!

Ok, so now you are back tracking a bit. You could be Spider-man but in certain situations there is nothing you can do, unless you are some sort of Jedi as well and can use the force to lift your own bike up off from the ground.
In my situation, lets imagine when I was punted out into the main road, another car was driving along that road, at night, those side reflectors could have been the difference between the car wiping out the front of my bike or swerving round it.
 

Goblin

2019
CB650R ABS
Sep 2, 2019
What I said, I don’t know your situation maybe you could not do anything and maybe you just weren’t careful enough. but in most cases there is something you can do as a biker. And what has Spider-Man and Star Wars anything to do about it 😂😂
 

Eaglemoto

2019
CBR650R ABS
Jul 13, 2019
Riding Since
2013
What I said, I don’t know your situation maybe you could not do anything and maybe you just weren’t careful enough. but in most cases there is something you can do as a biker. And what has Spider-Man and Star Wars anything to do about it 😂😂

Oh dear, so even after the explanation you still aren't clear as to whether I was being careful enough. Are you a troll by any chance?
I hope your ego and big head doesn't get you in trouble one day, as it appears you think you are able to avoid any accident while on a bike.

You are not safer on a bike with or without traction control, it’s nothing more than a helping hand. it’s the person who drives the bike that makes it safe or unsafe. Sometimes all these safety systems can give the driver a valse feeling of being safer. false sense of security, can let to more risk taking. This is what you sometimes see with younger riders / beginners. I trust my own skills and common sense, an the safety systems like traction control ABS etc are just a nice backup to have, but never depend on it, that’s a mistake some riders make

Regarding safety features such as ABS and traction control. They help to prevent a rider losing control of a bike, therefore making a rider safer, notice I used the word safer and not safe. It would only be a reckless rider who totally relies on them, and even in the wet I haven't yet managed to activate either safety feature. I certainly don't sit at the traffic lights thinking I am going to apply maximum throttle and let the traction control sort out the back end of the bike, and stop me fishtailing into the side of a car.
Another feature of this bike that makes it safer over the 650F is under heavy braking, the indicators flash to warn other road users. I suppose now you will say if you are a good enough rider you shouldn't need to apply the brakes so harshly.

Do I really have to explain the references to Spider-Man and Star Wars?
 
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